Fell asleep with SL on again today. I end up DJing till very late, then working all night trying to get the whole tour balloon thing working. Hard to do on the Mainland, since the land is all owned by dozens or hundreds of different people. While I was asleep, I got an IM from the guy who did the visual design of the tour balloons I'm using, or at least I -think- that's who it was. He seems upset, and he was Offline by the time I woke up.
Tried to type him a notecard, but I'm a bit lagged, so typing in SL is hard. Also, my eyes are getting worse, and it's hard to read the type in SL. Took a while to get it typed. Anyway, thought I might be saying something important to more people in SL, so I copied it here. Easier to type here, so I'm revising and expanding a bit in this version.
I XX'ed out his name, since he might take offense, but I left his brand in. He does -very- nice designs, and his work is worth plugging. :-)
[13:54:52] Xxxxxxxx Xxxxxx: AR'd for Unwanted Advert spam. You know, if enough people find it as annoying as me, you will know about it.
[13:56:38] Xxxxxxxx Xxxxxx: It also appears you're using my brand to sell land.. now I realize youre nothing but a leach and my annoyance has turned to pitty. GL kid.
[15:37:05] Grizzly Silversmith: I don't have any land to sell, really. Got time to hear some details?
Remarkable how much of a pain in the butt SL is for trying to actualy communicate... Anyway, sorry you caught me falling asleep with SL running, again.
So, first of all, what unwanted advert spam? Not sure what you're referring to. I've been working my self to sleep getting these tour balloons working right. If there's something I need to fix, it'd help if you'd tell me what it is.
Using your brand to sell land? First of all, even looking at your profile, I'm not sure what your brand is. Secondly, I'm a DJ who's also trying to promote my little dance club out in the middle of the mainland, or that's where I started, anyway. I'm trying to-dump- land in mass quantities. I wanted to buy some -little- lots on the road to put the balloons, and I ended up buying -big- pieces, filling up my tier. One patch of PG land I bought for 2 lindens per meter, and had to sell to a speculator for .55 lindens per meter. Yes, -point-five-five. Can't afford more tier. And I want more land here in "my" sim of Pavane, so I can turn it into Something. (And as the vast amounts of abandoned land in Pavane finally are available, I want -those-.
I deeded the land in the largest remaining roadside patch to one of my groups, so some young friends of mine could open a club called Hat Trick. There's three of us working on it, and Hat Trick is a sports term for hockey in the US as well as Cricket in their country, as it turns out. Still considering moving Ours out to the road and getting rid of all this profoundly ugly land in Pavane. The whole middle of this continent is bare rock. What the hell were the Lindens thinking there?
I'm guessing you have something to do with the balloons, maybe that Antiuque Artistry thing? Then I'm sorry I left your brand on; I wanted to make sure folks know I didn't build the things, just modded them. They're pretty cool balloons. I would have done better with those eight-passenger ones, but my girlfriend wanted the cuddly one. :-)
I started out trying to have balloons from patches on the roadside in to my club, Ours. You'll note that's the main "brand" on the balloon, the name of my club. The express-to-the-club balloon idea doesn't work; too many parcels to cross in between, with too many permissions set. A couple -almost- work. Not well suited to mainland.
Ended up building the circle tour, first because it seems kinda fun, and second because I think the Mainland is the Last Best Hope for SL overall. Everyone's isolated out on their islands, and all the people who checked "explore" in their profile can't explore. Search sucks for exploration. You can explore mainland, you can stumble across stuff, there's actual Serendipity here. And there can be community, too. Biggest weakness in SL, nobody really talks to anyone else. Not with too many people scattered across too many islands.
You can really -explore- on the mainland. You can stumble across stuff. The imaginations of hundreds of people are on display here. And no one sees them -- because Nobody Goes to the Mainland. Nobody Goes to the Mainland, because it's supposed to be laggy, but it -isn't- laggy -- because Nobody Goes to the Mainland.
I've been talking about this in my Blog, and I've been talking about this on my podcasts. You should listen sometime, if you're not too busy jumping to conclusions.
I did mention to the one passenger I've had that the balloons are a great way to find land to buy, and there's a lot for sale -- mainly because it's true. I used the balloons, in fact, to help find the land that I've used for Waystations for the balloons. I'm trying to promote the use of the balloons, too, but I don't really know where to start with that. And I'm trying to get people behind the idea over all, including the folks who are trying to sell land here, because it benefits everybody for more folks to see the mainland, including them -- maybe especially them.
I was hoping at first to just have -one- balloon on a long route clear around the continent. Way too hard. If I wander off the track a little bit, I hit someone's no-object-entry setting on their roadside land and the balloon is deleted. So I ended up with a lot of land I didn't much want to buy, and broke the route into six 100-waypoint-or-so stretches. Probably better that way. Would take a -very- long time to go clear around the mainland, and probably no one would want to take the whole ride.
A side dream, if you will. I've kept the balloons announcing waypoint numbers, so that people who like the Circle Tour idea could even advertise their builds as "near waypoint X on the Circuit La Corse Balloon Tour!" Probably won't happen, but A Boy Can Dream.
So, that's my Evil Plan for World Domination and getting rich on SL land speculation. I'm mostly trying to not get more poor, play with some fun technology, and give folks something neat to play with themselves. If that's Evil, they've changed the definition since I was a kid.
As for trying to sell off the overpriced roadside land I got stuck with in mass quantities trying to build this thing, without dumping it and losing all the money I had to put in, yeah, I'm trying to do that. Better than abandoning it. I hate abandoning land. Got a bunch of land I want to buy in Pavane that I can't cause someone got in a hurry and abandoned vast swaths of it. You should look elsewhere in the blog for the story of the adult land I got screwed while trying to sell off. I recently abandoned the sizeable remainder -- it cost me 6.5 lindens per meter to buy Back When -- because I was tired of the bad memories, and because I needed to buy all that land for the balloon project.
Next time you want to know what I'm doing, try asking me. And next time you think I'm doing something wrong, try asking me to fix it. I learn how to do things that way. And I like to learn.
Good luck in your future endeavors in SL,
== Griz
http://grizzlysgrowls.com
http://blog.grizzlysgrowls.com
FURTHER NOTE! It struck me much later that the guy just might have been IMing the wrong person, and got me by mistake. I note that when I tried a search for -him-, I got an error back from Search.
Tried to type him a notecard, but I'm a bit lagged, so typing in SL is hard. Also, my eyes are getting worse, and it's hard to read the type in SL. Took a while to get it typed. Anyway, thought I might be saying something important to more people in SL, so I copied it here. Easier to type here, so I'm revising and expanding a bit in this version.
I XX'ed out his name, since he might take offense, but I left his brand in. He does -very- nice designs, and his work is worth plugging. :-)
[13:54:52] Xxxxxxxx Xxxxxx: AR'd for Unwanted Advert spam. You know, if enough people find it as annoying as me, you will know about it.
[13:56:38] Xxxxxxxx Xxxxxx: It also appears you're using my brand to sell land.. now I realize youre nothing but a leach and my annoyance has turned to pitty. GL kid.
[15:37:05] Grizzly Silversmith: I don't have any land to sell, really. Got time to hear some details?
Remarkable how much of a pain in the butt SL is for trying to actualy communicate... Anyway, sorry you caught me falling asleep with SL running, again.
So, first of all, what unwanted advert spam? Not sure what you're referring to. I've been working my self to sleep getting these tour balloons working right. If there's something I need to fix, it'd help if you'd tell me what it is.
Using your brand to sell land? First of all, even looking at your profile, I'm not sure what your brand is. Secondly, I'm a DJ who's also trying to promote my little dance club out in the middle of the mainland, or that's where I started, anyway. I'm trying to-dump- land in mass quantities. I wanted to buy some -little- lots on the road to put the balloons, and I ended up buying -big- pieces, filling up my tier. One patch of PG land I bought for 2 lindens per meter, and had to sell to a speculator for .55 lindens per meter. Yes, -point-five-five. Can't afford more tier. And I want more land here in "my" sim of Pavane, so I can turn it into Something. (And as the vast amounts of abandoned land in Pavane finally are available, I want -those-.
I deeded the land in the largest remaining roadside patch to one of my groups, so some young friends of mine could open a club called Hat Trick. There's three of us working on it, and Hat Trick is a sports term for hockey in the US as well as Cricket in their country, as it turns out. Still considering moving Ours out to the road and getting rid of all this profoundly ugly land in Pavane. The whole middle of this continent is bare rock. What the hell were the Lindens thinking there?
I'm guessing you have something to do with the balloons, maybe that Antiuque Artistry thing? Then I'm sorry I left your brand on; I wanted to make sure folks know I didn't build the things, just modded them. They're pretty cool balloons. I would have done better with those eight-passenger ones, but my girlfriend wanted the cuddly one. :-)
I started out trying to have balloons from patches on the roadside in to my club, Ours. You'll note that's the main "brand" on the balloon, the name of my club. The express-to-the-club balloon idea doesn't work; too many parcels to cross in between, with too many permissions set. A couple -almost- work. Not well suited to mainland.
Ended up building the circle tour, first because it seems kinda fun, and second because I think the Mainland is the Last Best Hope for SL overall. Everyone's isolated out on their islands, and all the people who checked "explore" in their profile can't explore. Search sucks for exploration. You can explore mainland, you can stumble across stuff, there's actual Serendipity here. And there can be community, too. Biggest weakness in SL, nobody really talks to anyone else. Not with too many people scattered across too many islands.
You can really -explore- on the mainland. You can stumble across stuff. The imaginations of hundreds of people are on display here. And no one sees them -- because Nobody Goes to the Mainland. Nobody Goes to the Mainland, because it's supposed to be laggy, but it -isn't- laggy -- because Nobody Goes to the Mainland.
I've been talking about this in my Blog, and I've been talking about this on my podcasts. You should listen sometime, if you're not too busy jumping to conclusions.
I did mention to the one passenger I've had that the balloons are a great way to find land to buy, and there's a lot for sale -- mainly because it's true. I used the balloons, in fact, to help find the land that I've used for Waystations for the balloons. I'm trying to promote the use of the balloons, too, but I don't really know where to start with that. And I'm trying to get people behind the idea over all, including the folks who are trying to sell land here, because it benefits everybody for more folks to see the mainland, including them -- maybe especially them.
I was hoping at first to just have -one- balloon on a long route clear around the continent. Way too hard. If I wander off the track a little bit, I hit someone's no-object-entry setting on their roadside land and the balloon is deleted. So I ended up with a lot of land I didn't much want to buy, and broke the route into six 100-waypoint-or-so stretches. Probably better that way. Would take a -very- long time to go clear around the mainland, and probably no one would want to take the whole ride.
A side dream, if you will. I've kept the balloons announcing waypoint numbers, so that people who like the Circle Tour idea could even advertise their builds as "near waypoint X on the Circuit La Corse Balloon Tour!" Probably won't happen, but A Boy Can Dream.
So, that's my Evil Plan for World Domination and getting rich on SL land speculation. I'm mostly trying to not get more poor, play with some fun technology, and give folks something neat to play with themselves. If that's Evil, they've changed the definition since I was a kid.
As for trying to sell off the overpriced roadside land I got stuck with in mass quantities trying to build this thing, without dumping it and losing all the money I had to put in, yeah, I'm trying to do that. Better than abandoning it. I hate abandoning land. Got a bunch of land I want to buy in Pavane that I can't cause someone got in a hurry and abandoned vast swaths of it. You should look elsewhere in the blog for the story of the adult land I got screwed while trying to sell off. I recently abandoned the sizeable remainder -- it cost me 6.5 lindens per meter to buy Back When -- because I was tired of the bad memories, and because I needed to buy all that land for the balloon project.
Next time you want to know what I'm doing, try asking me. And next time you think I'm doing something wrong, try asking me to fix it. I learn how to do things that way. And I like to learn.
Good luck in your future endeavors in SL,
== Griz
http://grizzlysgrowls.com
http://blog.grizzlysgrowls.com
FURTHER NOTE! It struck me much later that the guy just might have been IMing the wrong person, and got me by mistake. I note that when I tried a search for -him-, I got an error back from Search.
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